Generating Leads and Acquiring Borrowers Not Easy in Business Lending
July 21, 2015
“Banks are almost always losing money on small business lending,” said Manish Mohnot, TD Bank’s Head of Small Business Lending, on a panel at the AltLend conference in New York City. It’s a loss leader within the small business segment, he explained, because banks want to bring in deposits.
Funding Circle’s Rana Mookherje concurred. “Banks just can’t make a loan under $500,000 profitably,” he said.
It’s a conundrum few outside banking think about. When consumers and businesses picture banks, they might think of loans, but when banks think of consumers and businesses, they think of deposits. The sentiment amongst the experts at AltLend was that traditional banks and alternative business lenders were not competing with each other for the same customers because each party was after a different objective.
And even when banks think about loans, because obviously they do, they just don’t approach them the way that alternative business lenders do. To that end, ApplePie Capital CEO Denise Thomas said, “Most community banks are looking to make loans backed by an asset. They just don’t want to underwrite [loans] one by one under a million dollars.”
Bankers are genuinely surprised by how alternative lenders subjectively or manually approach business loans, a subject covered just yesterday here on AltFinanceDaily. Charles Green, the Managing Director of the Small Business Finance Institute and moderator of the New Pioneers panel said he never saw banks use bank transaction history to make underwriting decisions in his 35 years of banking.
The factors paraded as being more important above everything else in alternative lending today have apparently been non-factors in traditional lending for years. “There is no substitute for banking information when reviewing a client for approval,” said Andrew Hernandez, a co-founder of Central Diligence Group, in Do Bank Statements Matter in Lending? Business Lenders and Consumer Lenders Disagree. These kind of statements are mind-blowing in traditional lending circles.
Nevertheless, banks watch in awe as alternative lenders not only make small commercial loans, but do it profitably. But how they source borrowers isn’t rocket science. Jim Salters, the CEO of The Business Backer pointed out that some alternative lenders are marketing on a large scale by running TV or radio commercials. But that level of investment isn’t for everyone, especially younger companies.
“Direct mail isn’t sexy, but it converts,” said Candace Klein, the Chief Strategy Officer of Dealstruck. She also said that her company is doing radio advertising.
Matt Patterson of Expansion Capital Group is well versed in digital marketing and incorporates SEO and online paid advertising such as Facebook in his strategy. There’s a difference in the conversion rate in advertising on Facebook versus something like Google, he explained. On Google, business owners are looking for something whereas on Facebook they stumble across it.
Everyone agreed that Pay-Per-Click marketing such as Google Adwords was very expensive in this competitive landscape.

Jim Salters, CEO of The Business BackerBut where can funders and lenders reliably turn to acquire deal flow cost effectively? Salters revealed the industry’s worst kept secret, brokers. The Business Backer acquires about half of its volume from brokers and the other half directly, according to Salters.
“The broker channel is one of the most cost effective channels for us,” said Klein, who would not say on the record exactly how much of Dealstruck’s total business was from brokers.
Patterson agreed with the favorable ROI of using brokers, but saw benefits to communicating with small businesses directly. “Everything about that relationship is better when you’re talking directly to that merchant,” he said. And yet, “our direct leads convert much lower than our broker leads will,” he added.
The panelists generally agreed that this was because brokers have essentially already gathered the documents and closed the deal by the time the lender or funder is finally seeing it.
But aren’t brokers and humans the antithesis of tech-based lending?
Brett Baris, the CEO of up-and-coming lender Credibility Capital said, “We were actually a little surprised by how much a human is needed.” Baris’ company acquires most of its leads through a partnership it has with Dun & Bradstreet. Most of their borrowers are prime credit quality.
“The human element is very important to get the higher quality borrowers to the finish line,” Baris noted. TD’s Mohnot was not surprised. For applicants doing $5 million to $6 million a year in revenue, they want somebody to walk them through the loan process, he opined.
“Merchants love talking to people,” Patterson said. “Some of that comes from the frustration of calling their bank and not being able to talk to people.”
But would that mean the assumptions about automation are wrong? Not quite, explained Mohnot. It’s the younger business owners who have the impulse desire to do things fast or online, he said.
And Klein said that observing merchant behavior at least at her company has shown that those all too eager to apply for a loan in an automated online fashion are typically looking for smaller amounts like $20,000 to $40,000. Meanwhile Dealstruck’s loan minimum is $50,000.

Not everyone is as fortunate as Baris, who is able to generate leads through the trust inherent in a conversation that originated with a D&B rep, but real actual bank declines are making their way to alternative lenders. They’re not the holy grail that everyone thinks they would be though.
“Conversions tend to be lower from bank leads because they’re expecting 6% and are insulted when they hear [a higher %],” said Klein. And Salters who refers to his company as a “turndown partner of choice for upstream lenders,” shared how hard it is for a bank to partner with an alternative lender in the first place. Years ago, banks were aghast by his hands-on, manual underwriting approach that he felt was his company’s core competency. The banks were afraid their regulators would freak out over something so subjective.
And yet Merchant Cash and Capital’s founder, Stephen Sheinbaum and Credit Junction’s CEO Michael Finkelstein both told an audience that they saw banks as collaborative partners.
Meanwhile, Dealstruck actually has a graduation system where merchants graduate out of their loan program and become eligible for a real bank loan. Klein explained that a small business could be referred to them by the bank and then after a couple of years of good history, they’ll refer it back to them.
The acquisition secret however seems to be in finding your strength. ApplePie is focused exclusively on franchises. Expansion Capital Group has formed relationships with several trade organizations. Credibility Capital goes hand-in-hand with D&B.

Still, there is no doubt that the broker channel is alluring, but it can be a slippery slope. Raiseworks CEO Gary Chodes cautioned that “brokers are incentivized to follow the money.” Klein also expressed concern. She knows firsthand how challenging brokers can be since she’s had to terminate some in the past for bad behavior.
“Transparency is extremely important,” Finkelstein proclaimed in regards to the customer experience. This means that lenders can’t simply work off the ROI metric alone. But that ROI is the envy of banks nationwide.
Banks want to refer their clients to alternative lenders because if they get approved, then the lender is going to deposit those funds at their bank, Mohnot alluded.
It would seem that there is not one particular methodology that works better than all the others to acquire a borrower and that’s okay. Alternative lenders struggling to maximize their ROI can take comfort in the fact that banks, with all the resources they have at their disposal, accepted a long time ago that it was impossible to even make money at all in small business lending.
If you’re at least in the black, you’re probably doing just fine…
The Broker’s Future: Are The Good Times Over?
June 1, 2015
As we continue the Year Of The Broker discussion, we must take an honest look at The Future. Due to the low barrier to entry into our space, there isn’t a week that goes by that I don’t see another recruiting ad informing the reader that all they need is a heartbeat, a UCC list, and an industry list of SIC Codes to make big money in our space. But is everything really as rosey as promoted, or if you are a new broker, should you consider investing your capital (time, energy, money and mental health) in another industry?
The Past
To understand The Future, sometimes we have to look at The Past. Instead of a year of the broker, there was instead an actual era of the Broker, and that was from 2000 to about 2013:
(( 2000 – 2007 ))
Few firms offered a “Merchant Cash Advance” as either a direct sell or value add, and very few merchants were receiving telephone solicitations in regards to the having “working capital” other than those involved in the Equipment Leasing or A/R Factoring sectors. While the market was wide open, most merchants wouldn’t entertain an advance for 6 months with a 1.25 – 1.30 factor rate when banks were lending pretty well at much lower borrowing costs.
(( 2008 to 2013 ))
When the economy and markets took a downturn in 2008 creating The Great Recession, and banks halted most of their lending to small business applicants, the Merchant Cash Advance product was more aggressively sold by the pioneers of the industry through their Merchant Processing ISO relationships, direct selling, online advertisements, and more. The pioneers also introduced risk based pricing and premium priced products, allowing them to appeal to the higher credit graded merchants who were finally entertaining the product due to banks not lending as efficiently as previously. The pioneers also introduced multiple formats of repayment including through ACH, which allowed them to service merchants that they couldn’t tie the repayment to their merchant processing volume due to the merchant’s inability to switch or the merchant’s low monthly processing volume.
Awareness of the Merchant Cash Advance skyrocketed, hundreds of millions in equity capital began pouring in, major media outlets such as CNBC gave the product coverage, and annually the industry was funding over $1 Billion to small business applicants.
This boom period also started the trend of new lenders and brokers popping into the industry overnight using mainly the same marketing strategies such as UCC Lists, SEO, PPC, Bankcard Portfolio Marketing, and Cold Calling Various SIC Codes. These strategies worked in a decent fashion until the flood of new direct lenders and brokers coming into the industry continued, with these new entrants using mainly the same strategies. Profits were being driven down, new client acquisitions were being driven down, and because a funder’s UCC filings were being called so much, they decided to begin filing them under fake names or only filing them on riskier merchants, or never filing a UCC at all. Also most of the Online Marketing methods became too expensive, pricing the little guy out of the market.
The Future
Now we are in 2015 and new broker entrants are mainly using the exact same strategies from 2008 – 2013, discovering that UCC lists and Cold Calling SIC Codes just will not work efficiently going forward. The Future of profitability and new client acquisition in our space is going to be through Strategic Partnerships. There are three sections of your Strategic Partnerships and they are your Professional Network, Mom and Pop Network, and Online Network.
• Professional Network – The creation of a professional network from referrals such as Banks, Credit Unions, Accountants, Business Brokers, Merchant Processing ISOs, etc., to bring in a high amount of consistent leads of small business applicants who are currently seeking capital.
• Mom and Pop Network – The creation of an external independent broker channel that includes hundreds of random brokers that you sign up to resell your services. You would use the same tongue and cheek, everything is rosey, recruiting ads that I see every week just to get a rush of people on the telephone making cold calls to SIC codes, trying to compete in online marketing, or calling the remains of UCC lists, all with the dream of making a lucrative payday. The volume produced on an individualized basis will be so small it’s irrelevant, but as a collective, they will make up a major chunk of volume. This why I call these sources Mom and Pop.
• Online Network – This is your SEO, PPC, High Traffic Website Ads, and other online advertising methods. These methods will become more expensive going forward and only those with large marketing budgets will be able to truly capitalize in this area with positioning, listings, etc.
Summary
Our space is changing and new broker entrants might want to reconsider investing their capital (time, energy, money and mental health) into this venture. Only direct lenders with team members that were pioneers of this space as well as with the right networks and equity sources, are capable of truly seizing The Future. Those just now trying to come in and ride the wave will soon discover that just like with the Stock Market, the real money has already been made and most of the future returns are already capitalized. As a new broker, you more than likely will fall into that dreaded Mom and Pop category, which isn’t a good position to be in for The Future.
Search Engine Lead Generation Is Probably Rigged
March 21, 2015
Hoping to do some nifty SEO to boost your site to the top of search results for valuable keywords? Don’t bother. In August, 2014, I presented six signs that alternative lending is rigged, at least as far as search was concerned.
Two days ago, the Wall Street Journal ran a story that exposed a confidential FTC report on Google. The article opens with, “Officials at the Federal Trade Commission concluded in 2012 that Google Inc. used anticompetitive tactics and abused its monopoly power in ways that harmed Internet users and rivals, a far harsher analysis of Google’s business than was previously known.”
The conclusion? Google indeed skewed search results to favor its own services.
The 160 page report that the WSJ draws its analysis from was not supposed to be made public. Only a handful of pages are presented on the WSJ’s website in their entirety. Below are two of them:


Though I cannot find the specific comment anymore on LinkedIn, one of the responses I received on my August post regarding Google’s search results came from a former Google employee. They informed me that my suspicion was preposterous and that Google would never ever manipulate results.
While I made no effort to assert my evidence as anything more than circumstantial, the outright dominance of Google-owned lending companies for high value lending keywords was impossible to ignore. The WSJ story adds fuel to this fire.
Admittedly, the WSJ story doesn’t mention lending, nor do I think lending keywords were a subject of the FTC report (There are 156 pages the WSJ didn’t share). What I think is compelling here is a conclusion that Google did indeed manipulate results and penalized competitors to favor its own financial goals.
Despite the findings, the FTC ultimately did not bring any action against Google.
Is the game rigged? I feel a little bit better about saying, yes. Don’t put all your eggs in the SEO basket.
How to Use Bitcoin
December 8, 2014
The best way to get comfortable with bitcoin is to just try using it yourself. Even though there are many technological, mathematical and confusing layers to bitcoin, the currency aspect of it is by far the easiest to use and understand.
With that said, here’s how you can dip your toes in and become a big bitcoin kahuna:
1. Open an account on Coinbase.
2. You will need to buy/exchange bitcoins using your regular currency such as US dollars. To do this you will need to connect your bank account to Coinbase. This is what I did. Also it will ask you to enter your cell phone number for two-factor password authentication to prevent hacking.
3. Decide how many bitcoins you want to buy. I bought 1 whole BTC but you can buy fractions of 1 if it makes you feel comfortable. Choose whatever amount you want. You can always buy more or sell your bitcoins back into dollars.
4. Bitcoins will be deposited in your account. Coinbase will store them for you along with the private key to use them. You can choose to export your bitcoins but you don’t have to. I keep mine at Coinbase.
5. Shop anywhere that accepts bitcoin. I shopped at overstock.com.
6. On overstock.com, I selected the item I wanted and placed it in my shopping cart. For payment method, I selected bitcoin.

7. There are two ways you can initiate the bitcoin payment to overstock:
— A. Manually send bitcoins to the address provided. A random receiving address is created for each transaction.
— B. Use your Coinbase wallet (the option on the left. This is easiest and what you should do)

8. If you used option B above, Coinbase will automatically transfer the bitcoins to overstock.com and your order will be placed instantaneously.
All finished. You’ve officially joined the world of bitcoin!
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Need to send a payment manually? It’s easy!
1. Log on to Coinbase.
2. Click “My Wallet” on the left hand side.
3. Click “Send”

4. Make sure you know the recipient’s bitcoin address. If you are making a payment to advertise here on debanked.com, this is an address I will supply you with. Some parties create a unique receiving address for each transaction but they can be reused.

5. Internet connected bitcoin miners around the world will automatically facilitate the transaction. This should take about 10 minutes at most. There is nothing you need to do other than wait for the receiving party to confirm. It is impossible for them to deny receipt of the bitcoins as all transactions are verified and public in the Bitcoin Blockchain.
All finished. You’re now a pro!








You might not get exactly what I get and I realize that obfuscates the conspiracy I’m trying to establish here. If you do witness peculiar keyword domination though, keep an open mind that there might be more going on than good SEO and strong natural backlinking brought on by mainstream media publicity. Plenty of big businesses that dominate offline fail to rank well in the top ten results online.
If you noticed a shuffle in search rankings for industry keywords last night, it’s because Google unleashed Penguin 2.1.
Have you ever seen a press release with thin information but lots of embedded links that say something like “best small business loan companies”? There’s a reason for that. These companies are trying to manipulate 


In late April, 2012 Google announced they were cracking down on “blog networks.” This algorithm update became known as
To resolve this dilemma, Google created a tagging system to allow their search crawlers to identify which links were paid for and then direct their algorithm to make sure the buyers did not benefit in search from them. This directive was controversial because it forced webmasters that cared about their rankings to worry about the nature of their outbound links. Could a website selling banner ads hurt both the buyer and the seller at the same time? They sure could. If buying and selling backlinks is forbidden, then both parties have something to worry about. Today, it is important to include the rel=”nofollow” attribute in html coded links that are paid for.
Smart webmasters approach the web like their health. Do everything in moderation. It seems like every year there is a study that proves a correlation between a daily household food item with a certain untimely death. We’ve all heard something like this before: “The study determined that people that eat less than 2 carrots a day are more likely to die before the age of 70 than people that eat 2 or more carrots per day.” It’s the kind of fear mongering that causes someone to worry obsessively about meeting the 2 carrot daily minimum only to get hit by a bus as they cross the street three decades before they turn 70. Webmasters can spend their days worried about how Google will view them and ultimately never be found by their potential customers or they can do what everyone else does and work on getting backlinks and add content to their websites.
White hatters, the SEOers that wrongly believe they are immune from repercussions argue that their strategies take far longer to create results because they are in it for the long haul. Coincidentally, these long-haul strategies tend to have a high monthly price, do not guarantee results, and cannot predict what changes Google will make in the future. For example, if an SEOer says their slow and steady method will take 6-12 months, the webmaster should understand that the ranking algorithm could change in 5 months. All the work performed could be rendered obsolete in the blink of an eye or worse, devalue the ranking further from where it was originally.
There are alternatives out there like Bing and Yahoo, but the problem is that when people go to those sites, they tend to type Bing or Yahoo into Google just to get there. Such is the habit these days for getting anywhere on the web. In 2008, blogger 



























